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Posted By: BaylianConcealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
A friend of my wife's is getting divorced and wants to get a purse, concealed carry hand gun. She weighs about a buck thirty and is about 5'4". I need suggestions on caliber and hand gun. As a single mom, she's not made of money so we're looking for best bang for the buck. Pardon the pun. Yes, I will get her into a good training program.
Thanks, TJ
Posted By: 458WinRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
My wife is only 5' and 95# and she absolutely loves her little 32 Keltec as it is so light, doesn't feel cold and has no levers or buttons - simply a dao semi-auto.
My daughter is the same size as your friend and in town she likes her little Beretta 950 in 22 short as she likes to shoot- a lot- and the Beretta is cheap to shoot. Since she does shoot it a lot she is pretty handy with it. In addition the Beretta is easy to load as you do not need to pull the slide back to load or unload it.
None of these guns is a powerhouse but in determained hands certainly beat screaming for help or dialing 911.
Posted By: tikkanutRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
A good used Smith 38 snub revolver...or a good used DAO semi...and know how to use it.....or a good bottle of pepper spray....
Posted By: GreatWaputiRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
Kel-Tec P3AT would be my vote.
Posted By: SU35Re: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
A light weight hammerless 38 special shooting 110's.
Easy to draw, without hanging up, easy to point.
Taurus brand are inexpensive.
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Posted By: 86thecatRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
Some good info for women at www.corneredcat.com
Posted By: tbearRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
My wife is 5' & has small hands. Years ago I purchased a S&W Ladysmith in .38 cal.,had the action smoothed, barrel ported, & night sights installed. She qualified for CC with this revolver. I use Wadcutters as her defense ammo. I believe many would be better served with a revolver for CC vs. a semi-auto. A large number of rounds isn't important if the first does its job.
Posted By: magnumbRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
The hammerless 642 .38 Special or the bit cheaper, 442 (blued S&W).
No snaggin' on hammers, reliable, change out of springs will accommodate most women's hand/finger strength a bit better..........very concealable.
My wife loves hers.............
Posted By: ADK4RickRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
I agree with the revolver recomendations,my wife can't pull the slide back on any of my autos,and when she shot the Kahr 9 she limp wristed it and it didn't cycle.
Posted By: jimmypRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
Originally Posted by ADK4Rick
I agree with the revolver recomendations,my wife can't pull the slide back on any of my autos,and when she shot the Kahr 9 she limp wristed it and it didn't cycle.
many women cannot rack the slide on the double springed small autos, then they cannot lock their wrists so the thing might shoot only one time, finally loose powder, makeup, in a purse can get into an auto's action which may make it tough for it to work so good. My choice for women who typically are intimidated by flash, bang, and recoil is the 32 H&R in a hammerless aluminum framed smith without an external hammer, a $50 gunsmith job to make the trigger pull lighter and practicing with 32 longs. The 38 with wadcutters fits the bill, but the smaller 32 seems to be a better choice for the women in my life (and they get 6 chances if they need to solve a problem)
Posted By: Gun_NerdRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
How about getting her somewhere she can shoot a bunch of guns, so she can decide what she likes and is comfortable with?
Posted By: olhippieRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
[quote=458Win]My wife is only 5' and 95# and she absolutely loves her little 32 Keltec as it is so light, doesn't feel cold and has no levers or buttons - simply a dao semi-auto.
My daughter is the same size as your friend and in town she likes her little Beretta 950 in 22 short as she likes to shoot- a lot- and the Beretta is cheap to shoot. Since she does shoot it a lot she is pretty handy with it. In addition the Beretta is easy to load as you do not need to pull the slide back to load or unload it.....
......I couldn't have said it better. If the racking of the slide makes an auto a poor choice, then one of S&W's new Scandium J frame 32 Mag revolvers would provide an extremely lightweight gun that could be loaded with 32 S&W long ammo for practice, and the 32 H&Rmag ammo for defense.
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEERe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
It's a no brainer it's what SU35 and magnumb said. Hammerless 38 special.
Posted By: olhippieRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
...Why not a S&W Shrouded hammer model 38 ( air weight version of the shrounded hammer model 49) rather than the 'hammerless' models that remove the option of accuracy practice in single action mode. Maybe not necessary, but nice to have that option, in a revolver that as effectively prevents a hammer snag, as do the hammerless models..
Posted By: 458WinRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
I am a firm believer in practise and familiarity with any gun you plan on using and doubly so with any firearm you might have to bet your life on.
For that reason I usually recommend that most women who I know will not be likely to practise unless it is easy to get a 22. The scandium S&W's probably are the best and most reliable if weight are an issue. Coupled with a set of Crimson Trace grips I would feel perfectly armed with one for personal protection.
Posted By: BighornRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
Is it possible to get her to someplace where she can shoot a number of firerms, and decide which she likes best?
I went through this process with my wife- I thought a wheelgun was the best choice, but she decided differently, after shooting several revolvers and semiautos.
She ended up with a Walther P99C, in 9mm, which she enjoys shooting and carrying. She has no problem racking the slide on this gun, which was a problem with a number of other possible choices. The grip fits her hands well, and the P99C has great sights on it. The lack of a lever-type safety, etc. makes it a very simple weapon to check for load condition and operation.
Posted By: PrwlrRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
What about the new Ruger 380? Seems like a perfect ladies pistol or backup?
Posted By: GunGeekRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
J frame revolvers are perhaps the most difficult of all handguns to shoot. If you're going to get her a small snubbie, then you need to be aware that training time will be greatly extended.
Some other guns that are good alternatives, but not quite as small:
Taurus PT111 Milllennium Pro in 9mm. 12 shot 9mm that fits a woman's hand very well. DAO trigger is reasonable, and the slide is remarkably easy to pull back. Magazines are very difficult to load by hand, but the gun comes with a magazine loading tool to help out. And you can usually get one of these for just a touch over $300.00.
Browning 1910/1955 in .380. This is a compact (just a tad smaller than a Walther PPK), all steel pocket pistol. The slide, is fairly easy to draw back, and the gun is very reliable, and tends to fit a womans hand very well. The only real drawback are the sights which are downright puny. Browning actually designed the gun with no safety, to be carried loaded and chambered, relying purely on the grip safety (and it is safe to carry in that manner), but FN demanded a thumb safety.
Ruger SP101 in .32 Magnum or .38 Special. You could even get the new .327 and shoot .32 Magnum's in it. The grip has outstanding ergonomics for a woman's hand and the revolver is heavy enough to soak up a lot of recoil. On the down side, the revolver is heavy enough to soak up a lot of recoil, so it's heavier than most snubbies.
S&W 3" K frame with round butt. Models 10/13/64/65. I always recommend the round but K frame, outfitted with Pachmayr Compac Professional grips, which just seems to fit a womans hand oh-so well.
Astra A70/75 - These are very hard to find, but they're simply outstanding compact 9mm/40 pistols that also fit a womans hand exceptionally well. The A70 is single action and the A75 is double action. The gun is all steel, which means it will weigh about the same as a Ruger SP101, but it also means it's really easy in the recoil department. One of the most under-appreciated, under rated, and under produced defensive pistols in modern history; great pistol (but good luck finding one).
Kahr P series - These are a bit more pricey, but they have outstanding ergonomics, which is oh so important to a woman. On the down side, the slide is noticably harder to pull back over the Taurus/Browning/Astra, so make sure that's not an issue before buying.
I've taught a lot of women to shoot, and these are the guns that they consistently score with. Comfort is of paramount importance for a woman shooter, especially when she's not necessarily interested in the hobby of shooting, or becomming a shooter.
Posted By: GunGeekRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
HO-LEE-COW; just spotted an A75 in 9mm on Gunbroker: http:/
Posted By: idahoguy101Re: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/11/09
For what its worth my lovely Colleen has a S&W 3913 9mm at her bedside. My off duty concealed carry is a S&W 340 PD j frame 38 in a pocket holster.
idahoguy101
Posted By: jimmypRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
my petite daughter who is 4'11 inches and weights maybe 100 pounds shot my Kahr PM9 once and handed it back to me, she could not rack the slide and the muzzle blast even with double hearing protection is intimidating. We are not talking about Jack Baurthe guy on 24 that needs two guns with 6 magazine changes, many a woman wants something simple that works. My wife and daughter can hit a man sized siloute 6 out of 6 with a J frame and in the center at 12-15 feet. I get a kick out of someone that recommends a gun for a woman that "he likes". Take your wife up to a gun range and rent some guns for her to try, this is the best thing. Let her try 4-5 different models, some automatics and some revolvers. Don't let the "expert" behind the counter influence you.
Posted By: VAnimrodRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Originally Posted by John Frazer
How about getting her somewhere she can shoot a bunch of guns, so she can decide what she likes and is comfortable with?
Huge plus 1.
I bought my wife a 642, thinking it perfect.
She hated it.
She tried a Kimber Ultra Carry .45ACP.
She loved it.
She carries an Eclipse Ultra.
I never would have picked that one for her, but she picked it for herself.
Posted By: cole_kRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Originally Posted by magnumb
The hammerless 642 .38 Special or the bit cheaper, 442 (blued S&W).
No snaggin' on hammers, reliable, change out of springs will accommodate most women's hand/finger strength a bit better..........very concealable.
My wife loves hers.............
I agree. But my wife , daughter, and daughter-in-law all prefered the 637's and so did I.
Now my sister-in-law and her husband prefer the 642's.
So I suggest you let her handle and shot as many light weight .38's as possible.
Posted By: SU35Re: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
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J frame revolvers are perhaps the most difficult of all handguns to shoot.
I would have to disagree, any encounter outside of the home will likely be 3' or less. Simplicity of the J frame makes it user friendly.
The guns you recommended are mostly heavy. After the newness of carrying a handgun wears off they end up being left at home as a result of weight.
Posted By: RyanScottRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Most of the truly petite women I know either can't handle the recoil of a polymer .380 or the trigger pull of a J-frame. One guy in here suggested a handgun that wasn't out three months before they were all recalled. And many of you are basing your selection on the idea that the female in question will never practice with the weapon. Thats the height of foolishness. If she isn't going to learn to use it, don't get it for her, she shouldn't have it.
Later this month I am going to sell a dear friend of mine her first handgun, a Kahr P9. I lobbied hard for a Glock 19, but she wanted something narrower.
Posted By: BMTRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Originally Posted by magnumb
The hammerless 642 .38 Special or the bit cheaper, 442 (blued S&W).
No snaggin' on hammers, reliable, change out of springs will accommodate most women's hand/finger strength a bit better..........very concealable.
My wife loves hers.............
+1. The Factory grips "bit" my buddy's wife, and they swithced out for softer material.
Now, she "won't leave home without it."
BMT
Posted By: RSYRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Get the training first and have the instructor bring a variety of guns for her to try.
I would let her choose it, but probably steer her toward one of the smaller/compact striker autos, like a S&W M&P or a Springfield XD. I'd likely stick with a 9mm for her and buy some Hydra-Shoks as ammo.
Contrary to popular belief, a small DA revolver is almost always the worst choice. These guns, like the .410 shotgun, are often mistaken for beginner's guns, but are truly tools for the expert.
Scott
Posted By: Dancing BearRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
I agree with the recommendations of a small, locked breeech auto like a P32/P3AT Keltec or a j-Frame size shrouded hammer/concealed hammer revolver 32/38/22mag/22, etc. The tilt barrel berettas up toa and including the Tomcat make a lot of sense also.
The tough part of this question is it sounds like she wants a purse gun rather than an on body hideout.
That would have me recommending a 3inch barrel 5 shot 357/38 special +P [alloy frame] or a locked breech Kel-Tec PF9 or PF11 size weapon.
For CCW I carry a Glock 27 with a P-32 or S&W Bodyguard on the weak side. I also have a 4" 651 22 Magnum I am very fond of. Those are the weapons I have folks use that want to try CCW weapons out.
I have discovered that it is extemely hard to predict what someone prefers. My oldest daughter who can shoot well but doesn't care to carry frequently carries a Bodyguard. The middle girl an excellent shot and hunter prefers a P-32 and shoots it quite well. I would have guessed that the opposite choices would be made.
As a long time.22 magnum fan I would also be just fine with something like a Black Widow for a hideout and an eight shot .22 mag Ultralite Taurus [preferably one of the rare 3 in barreled ones].
Posted By: CaptMdnghtRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Originally Posted by John Frazer
How about getting her somewhere she can shoot a bunch of guns, so she can decide what she likes and is comfortable with?
+1
This is what I did for my wife. She shot about 10 guns that day and finally settled on a Kahr 9mm.
This is the easiest and most economical way for her to find a gun she is comfortable with.
Posted By: RyanScottRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
I took a girl shooting recently that couldn't fire a K-frame double action, let alone a shrouded J. And the recoil of a 9mm even in a hi-power was intimidating. Dunno what to do with that one. AR maybe.
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEERe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Originally Posted by jimmyp
my petite daughter who is 4'11 inches and weights maybe 100 pounds shot my Kahr PM9 once and handed it back to me, she could not rack the slide and the muzzle blast even with double hearing protection is intimidating. We are not talking about Jack Baurthe guy on 24 that needs two guns with 6 magazine changes, many a woman wants something simple that works. My wife and daughter can hit a man sized siloute 6 out of 6 with a J frame and in the center at 12-15 feet. I get a kick out of someone that recommends a gun for a woman that "he likes". Take your wife up to a gun range and rent some guns for her to try, this is the best thing. Let her try 4-5 different models, some automatics and some revolvers. Don't let the "expert" behind the counter influence you.
Now isn't that all the truth!
Posted By: hunter1960Re: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Have you looked at a Glock 26? My wife has no problem racking a Glock and shoots it fine.
Posted By: Sitka deerRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Got the S&W342 centennial Ti for Miss T and hated it. Was ridiculously inconsistent in triggerpull and everything felt "rough" about it inside.
Replaced it with the Taurus 85Ti with Crimson Trace grips. It is 12 ounces of joy to play with and convenient enough to be something she will carry... And more importantly, can shoot.
art
Posted By: InTheWoodsRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
My wife chose a SW 60 Ladysmith. She is 5'2" and, although very physically fit (is a triathelete), can't reliably work the slide on autos. She also considers the recoil of my Keltec .380 very frightening. The SW snub does bother her at all.
Be aware that many women have a hard time with the double-action pull on revolvers. When my wife shoots in a two-handed position, she tends to work the trigger with both 1st fingers. She is very accurate and fast this way. She also practices with one hand, but can only do this a dozen times or so. This is even after I replaced the trigger rebound spring.
Posted By: ar15a292fRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
I would recomend a Ruger SP101, Smith& Wesson Model 60 or a Taurus 85 in 38 Special. The carry load should be the Speer 135gr. Gold Dot snub load and the practice load can be the cheaper Federal American Eagle, Remington UMC or Winchester USA 130 gr. loads.
Posted By: djsRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
I suggest a S&W 642 in 38 Special. It is small, lightweight and DAO, so it is good for someone who might be less familair with handguns.
Posted By: RyanScottRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
I second the Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel load. I shoot lots of 158 factory reloads too.
Posted By: GunGeekRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Originally Posted by SU35
I would have to disagree, any encounter outside of the home will likely be 3' or less. Simplicity of the J frame makes it user friendly.
The guns you recommended are mostly heavy. After the newness of carrying a handgun wears off they end up being left at home as a result of weight.
My recommendations come from spending long hours at the range with many female students. My observation is that a J frame (which I believe to be an excellent defensive handgun) will usually double training time.
They don�t always fit their hands, so playing around with grips is always a good idea. J frames are very light in weight, and even with standard pressure .38 Special, recoil is significant; even more so in an aluminum frame gun. Sight radius is abbreviated to say the least. Trigger pull is much stiffer than K,L or N frames. These guns are difficult to shoot.
I�m not saying a woman can�t become competent enough for short range engagements; I�m just saying don�t assume the J frame is always the best choice. On the range, we teach these ladies to hit what their aiming at and always the J frame shooters have a harder time; they just have to work harder.
If you can�t hit on the range, with little to no stress, I�m not overly optimistic about someone hitting when the excrement impacts the ventilation system.
I know lots of women who carry J frames, but they also know they have to work harder, just like you and I do when we carry a J frame.
Posted By: BMTRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Yeah well (in my best Bill Murray voice) . . . . .
But they J frames are cool . . .
So they got that going for them . . . . . . 
Posted By: RyanScottRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Carrying a gun and shooting it well aren't going to be easy. It's something that needs to be done right or not done at all.
Posted By: BMTRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
FWIW:
I carry and train with a Model 29.
The little 642 would be a BUG for me, and probably shot within muzzle contact range.
BMT
Posted By: RyanScottRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
It's gonna be shot as far as it has to be shot. I think the realistic range of a J is probably 20 yards. On the square range my brother hits E-types to 125 yards pretty well with one.
Posted By: olhippieRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Originally Posted by RyanScott
I took a girl shooting recently that couldn't fire a K-frame double action, let alone a shrouded J. And the recoil of a 9mm even in a hi-power was intimidating. Dunno what to do with that one. AR maybe.
I've tended to many women who've fit this description. I ran a gun store for many years and sold various guns to women who were for the first time arming themselves. Women, like men, fit a lot of varying physical descriptions, no surprise there! Consequently there is no ONE best choice. As the guy behind the counter, I attempted to guide the lady through many choices, while doing my best to tutor her on the various features of each arms design and function. Often, and it's no shame, a more petite woman is better served by a smaller caliber weapon than most men feel is suitable for self defense. I've had many woman choose 32 caliber guns, and with today's ammo choices, the little 32 has a more lethal bite than many give it credit for! The small framed guns that most small women prefer, of course accentuate the muzzle blast and recoil of rounds like the 38spl.or even a 380, most men see these as mild options. The 32, or even the 22RF (I don't LIKE to go there, and I avoid the 25 unless it is absolutely "insisted" upon by the customer)tame down the buck and brawl of the little guns such that many small gals feel comfortable with them.
.....Don't tell me the 32 doesn't work well as a self defense round in these cases. Tell that to European police who carried the 32's for many many years. I've seen to many real life situations where the 32's were used effectively. I've even seen the 22RF used with good effect, FAR more often than I've seen it fail!
...The key is the same as applies in hunting game, SHOT PLACEMENT, and in self defense, keep placing shots until the threat is gone! Women MUST be taught the correct function of thier chosen arm, and they MUST be willing to practice shooting, until they have a calm confidence in that arms use as well.
....I tutored an elderly nurse here in Atlanta with the use of her chosen arm, a small Beretta 22RF (not MY first choice, BUT HERS). A couple months after her buying the gun she was accosted by a 6'4" 245lb. fellow as she left the hospital late at night. This fellow had mugged two other women earlier on,stole thier purses, money, ID etc. and had forced one woman to sodomize him. MY GAL was more prepared, she had her bag hung over her shoulder as was her normal custom, but as I'd taught her, when going to the car she had a hand inside her purse with the little mouse gun in hand! The big guy purse snatcher got the grip on the purse as he jumped out from between cars , but her hand and the Beretta came out shooting! she put 7 shots in him! All around his middle, from lower chest to abdomen. He ran but didn't make it out of the parking lot. Next stop for him was the emergency room. A nasty couple surgeries followed by a 16 year sentence was his reward. Justice sometimes comes out of the barrel of a mouse gun that the little ladies shoot so well!
Posted By: RyanScottRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
My stepmom has my P32 with hardball. I wouldn't use expanding bullets with anything less than .38. I would feel more comfortable if she had a Glock 19 but theres nothing I can do about it. She shoots pretty good for as rarely as she shoots. And I'm pretty sure if shes alone she won't use it, but to protect others she can get nasty.
Posted By: olhippieRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
....There are 60 grain hollow points in the 32acp that get the job done as well, or better than hardball. Those loads can be depended on to have a reliable 6-10" penetration on the human torso. A head shot of course, permently immobilizes in all but extremely rare cases..... A fellow shot with the 32, in the bodies trunk, generally wishes to cease and desist aggressive pursuits, and seek an emergency room as "soon as possible"... Believe me he'll VERY likely need immediate assistance to get there as well!
Posted By: RyanScottRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
6-10 inches is half of what it should be. On a fat guy that won't hit anything important. Like Patrick Urey says, underpenetration is less desirable than overpenetration.
Posted By: Thumper358Re: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Bobbed hammer Smith 38 snubbie J frame..always work..no semi hang-ups.
Posted By: RyanScottRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Along with a trigger that is tough for many women, only five shots, sights you can't see and recoil that stings small hands.
A J really is an experts weapon.
Posted By: Jeff_ORe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/12/09
Cost might be a killer, but a Kahr P9 or PM9 would be pretty sweet.
I carry a PM40, when I am pocket-carrying. Neat pistol.
Posted By: stray roundRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/13/09
Just went through this with my wife and wound up ordering her a Beretta 32acp Bobcat. Nothing else really worked for her, she either couldn't rack the slide on the auto loaders or the revolvers had too much reach to the trigger on the da revolvers.
The Beretta solved both problems, another big plus is that it is small and light enough that she will KEEP it with her.
Better to have a popgun than no gun at all, I guess.
Posted By: olhippieRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/13/09
Originally Posted by RyanScott
6-10 inches is half of what it should be. On a fat guy that won't hit anything important. Like Patrick Urey says, underpenetration is less desirable than overpenetration.
...It's insufficient only if a fellow could live without a functioning liver,or heart, for example. A 410 shotgun blast held at the skin doesn't have great penetration but is not a good bet to survive! Be assured that a 32 hollow point through the liver, heart,or lung, is more often fatal than not.Zero blood pressure isn't tolerated for lengthy periods by the human body, and zero blood pressure arrival doesn't take long with shots through the named vital organs. Of course brain shots up fatality probability immensely. Again shot placement is the most vital factor in fatality rates. Miss a vital organ with a 9mm or even larger caliber and survival odds jump WAY up!
...FBI/Justice Dept. stats on shootings with various firearms indicate the following. Remember a goodly number of such reported shootings include accidental shootings where, for example, a fellow may have shot himself in the leg or foot fast drawing a pistol, or perhaps crossing a fence with shotgun or rifle, etc. Handgun wounding produces a 10% fatality rating, centerfire rifles a 40% fatality rate, shotguns a 80% fatality rate! Of course it's much easier to have involved a vital organ with the massive nature of a shotguns wound, and the blood loss is horrific, repair becomes impossible for the best of surgeons.If deep penetration were the most vital need in defensive loads, hollow point bullets would lose out big time to hardball.Yes, bigger calibers create larger wound channels as a rule, but SHOT PLACEMENT trumps caliber everytime.Practice, practice, practice, until with a calm confidence you can rapidly put several shots, at least a double tap, into a target the size of a grapefruit (an orange would be better)at 10 to 15 feet and you won't need a big blaster to effectively defend yourself in 99% of all self defense situations. Remember in self defense situations firing until the threat is eliminated is an advisable strategy.
....This is one man's opinion, not meant to fuel argument. Rather meant in the hope of benefit to any who might find themselves in a real world tight spot.
....P.S. In defending your home leave the handgun in safe storage, use your shotgun with a nice charge of BIRDSHOT!
Posted By: RyanScottRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/13/09
I use ARs for defense, but its the same idea. And I agree, in defending oneself there is no substitute for aggression and skill!
Posted By: BaylianRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/13/09
Thank you all very much for the good advice here. I had thought up the try a bunch on my own before I read these posts. Thanks for the confirmation. If she (not my wife, my wife's friend) picks it, its more likely she'll use it and practice. I'm checking with the local constablary to see where I can get her some training. I would like my wife to get a CCW but she doesn't want to. I won't force her to. Sigh.
Thanks again, TJ
Posted By: RyanScottRe: Concealed carry for small woman - 01/13/09
A local gun store ought to have an introductory class, and if you want higher speed instruction I can help you track down someone worth visiting in your area.
